So South Iron failed in their quest to become No.1 in our hoops poll. Nobody can decide who should be ranked above everyone else. Area fans apparently thought I was joking when I said I found a girl that could beat Porter and Willen. Scott County is ranked three spots ahead of Bell City, despite two less wins and a loss to the Cubs. Nobody seems to care about that injustice. And everything seems to boil down to Feb. 22 when the Dogs in red meet the Dogs in blue.
And for Christ's sake, let's hope that everybody is healthy so we can stop listening to the cheapskate excuses about Ryan Willen and Austin Greer being hurt, or about Sikeston having bad shooting games and missing their three point threat. It's all crap. Each team fields five players every single game, you win or lose with those five. That's your team for that night. If you can't beat the other team, then you lose. It doesn't matter whether you think you were the better team that particular night, because you weren't. You lost. Plain and simple.
The better TEAM is the team that can adjust when things aren't going their way. The best TEAM is the group of kids that can come together without their star player. Willen and Porter might be the best players in the area, but that doesn't mean their team is the best team. Until Notre Dame proves it can win big games with or without Willen, it can't claim to be a great TEAM. Until Sikeston proves it can find ways to win despite having a bad shooting night, it can't claim to be a great TEAM.
Once the class sizes are aligned and there's no clear advantage due to school size and talent pools, similar to the situation with Notre Dame and Sikeston, the best team in the region is the team that figures out how to win with the five guys their coach has on the floor. There's nothing more to it.
If you can't win without Willen, then maybe you're just four guys relying on someone else. If you can't find a way to win while shooting poorly, then maybe all you are is a team with one attribute, lacking many others. Neither one of those characteristics goes far in my book when it comes to distinguishing the best from the better.
So the verbal shots and lame-ass excuses aside, there's only twelve guys at a time on Feb. 22 that will decide who's the better team for the time being. Ten ballers and two coaches. So yap it up all you want, but when SEMO high school hoops hits the big time on Feb. 22...your banter doesn't mean jack.
Friday, February 08, 2008
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There only sending 700 tickets to each school, and thats it. So you better call donw and get some tickets if you want to get in......Apparently, it only holds 14 or 15 hundred. I figure they'll sell a hundered or so the day of the game, but i doubt youll get in if you dont make early adjustments.....
I doubt David is traveling in from southwest Colorado to watch a high school basketball game, sikeston1213...even if you're gay-lover Bulldogs are in it.
And before you take a stab at notre dame, let me inform you that i don't like notre dame either. So spare me the bull.
Ste Gen, BABY!!!!! Mark it down!!!
lol, a gay related comment on a high school sports blog...go back to the 4th grade playground...seriously
kid #1: your team is terrible!
kid #2 (anonymous): oh yeah, well..your team loves gays!
I didn't mean him, that was referring to any fans that wanted to go, not just him directly....
My team is terrible? Who do you like? You're sounding more and more like a Charleston or Cape Central fan. If a team is bad when they only lose three games in a season, then yes, we are horrible.....
By the way, Id like you to tell that to Mike Porter. I believe youll be talking to one of the few 4 time All State players, assuming he gets it this and next year, which he will.........
Yah Yah, I would be willing to bet that Sikeston beat your team this year......I hope you're kidding, they are the best team in this area as of now.........
Sorry for trying to inform people who might want to watch the game about....Comments like that 2nd one are really funny.....I will laugh at you while we hold up the District Trophy....
I wasn't referring to Sikeston being terrible. I'm a huge Sikeston fan. They are the team to beat right now. I was only referring to the childish comment and a hypothetical situation on the 4th grade playground. I actually know Mike fairly well, by the way. My mom is his favorite teacher...
Oh, my bad then.
Whose your mom? I go to his school as well... I probably know who she is....
Mrs. Tucker. It's funny b/c he has to give her a hug just about every time he walks by her room. Of course, she was his teacher two years ago. I graduated from Sikeston in '01 and Hannibal-LaGrange College in '05. Josh Jackson is probably close to your age...Hannibal-LaGrange is where he's playing college baseball...I played soccer there. I moved back here and try to attend as many Sikeston events as possible. (more basketball and soccer than anything).
Now that was an excellent blog, I am glad to see that certain people are starting to realize that ND isnt what the world revolves around. Like it or not, all the talk aside, this potential match-up will be a coin flip. Nd comes out shooting well, I say they win. Sikeston controls their number of turnovers, they win. If both happen, we get an awesome game with neither side deserving to lose just like the past two years. ND, Sikeston and St. Charles West have claim to the Class 4 crown. Two of them will match up in the final game. It is just a shame that ND and Sikeston have to put the other one out.
Ahh, I had mrs. Tucker too. She was awesome. Yah, I know Josh, hes a few years older, he was on my baseball team last year. I play soccer as well, so I'm sure your familiar with Coach Long. Do you come watch soccer now? If so, you'll see me next year, since Droddy moved away(hopefully ;) )
Very good blog to as well, I thought it summed up everything that was needed to say to ND and Sikeston fans....
Yeah, I may even be one of your coaches next year...I'm looking at teaching at coaching next year...
I just wish Feb. 22nd would hurry up and arrive so things can be settled once and for all.
Baseball or Soccer? Whats your first name?
This is crap. Everyone knows that Sikeston can't even hold the jock straps of the ND Blue. They will not even show up to play this game. They are shaking in there boots. I do know one thing and that is last years game was a flop because we should have blown them out but the refs made it closer than it should have been. Again the Sikeston faithfull are lucky it is not in Sikeston again this season cause I can see it now (this is our house) The sikeston gym is ND's House.
Now, the talent of Porter and Willen is about equal, that is When Willen was in fifth grade compared to Porter now. Porter would probably be the fourth option for the ND team this year. This wont even be a game. ND will wipe the floor with them. I am calling the mercy clock in the fourth.
Doesn't Sikeston already have two coaches. i don't think they are leaving anytime soon do you? WOuld you be head coach or assistant?
Didn't both of the coaches play for Sikeston? If so why would they leave.
Sikeston has a better chance of winning the Special Olympics than they will against ND. ND wins going away.
I agree finally someone with alittle sense. ND is the best team in the state. good luck next year Sikeston.
I think SIkeston can win if Willen doesn't play. Since that is the only way they can beat us. Soccer and BBall champs. Your teams have no chance against us in both sports. Soccer and basketball. Heck we don't even have a football team and I know we could beat them.
Yah, thats what yall said the first time.......till we sent yall cryin in your own house.
I beleive our chant was"This is our House!!"
And if you want, we'll do it again, just for you guys. Porter is the best player in the area, if not the state. Willens goin to lafayette( i know, ive never heard of it either)
Hey David wheres your comment about ND fans being classy by the way?
Notre Dame will be crushed. Too much speed and too much rebounds. I say sikeston by 16
ND has nothing on Sikeston. Mike, Dom, and Cal will fombine for 35 rebounds, and that will lead them to victory.
REBOUNDING- the key to the game. And ND has one big man, we have abour 3 or 4 that can outjump anyone in state.
Sikesotn by 7 or 8
And if anyone thinks willen is better than Mike, you're on drugs....
THIS IS OUR HOUSE, Clap Clap ClapClapClap
I can hear it now, ND get ready, we all know its comin, Sikeston, ND fans, everyone knows how its goin donw
I think baseabll we have yall dominated in too.........
lolz. Obviously 1 "anonymous" person left about 6 comments within 5 minutes. Not all us notre dame fans are as childish as that. Anyways I say ND by 3.
ND will win this game. Write it down, Sikeston has no shot at all. ND has faster, quicker, more athletic, and all around better players than Sikeston. We will beat them by at least thirty. Willen will DOMINATE I repeat DOMINATE Porter. He will show him a real D1 talent looks like. The rest of the blue dogs will fall in line and run Sikeston out of the jym. I thinks Frederiktown has a better chance of beating us. As for baseball, we will dominate Sikeston this year just like we have in the years past.
soccer...and, there's no reason why you can't have three coaches for the jv/varsity soccer teams. and, coach long didn't play for sikeston...coach noe did, however. and, i don't know of any reason why either coach would leave. but, coach long did tell me he'd like to have me on the staff to help out. i wonder if some of the ridiculously ignorant anonymous comments are sikeston posters trying to post bulletin board material to pump sikeston up...not a terrible idea...but, kinda odd. if the posts are from ND posters, they are among the most arrogant posts i've ever seen. the posts make me think that you think ND needs to go ahead and move up to the NBA...or straight to the olympics as the dream team. awww, i'll just go ahead and admit it...sikeston should just stop fielding sports teams altogether because there's no point playing a regular season when we know ND will beat us in every sport by at least 10 pts!!
On a more serious note...why can't people learn to respect the rivalry that has been created in the last 8 years or so between sikeston and nd in baseball, basketball, and soccer? There wouldn't be near as much to look forward to each year in sports if it wasn't for these two schools battling it out time and time again.
I could give lots of reasons as to why either team could come out victorious, but I'll just leave it at this...SIKESTON FANS, "CREE EN LA VICTORIA!!!!"
Anonymous has a lot of comments.
If the Notre Dame distric pattern proves to be true, ND will lose this year. They seem to win every other year, and this would be the year that they lost. As an ND fan, I am scared.
I agree not all ND fans think that the game against Sikeston is going to be a blow out. I feel it will be a close game until Willen takes over in the fourth. I do think we will win but Sikeston is better than most teams in the state just not us. That is how most ND fans feel. They are good just not good enough. As for football how will we beat them if we don't have a team. That was one of the dumbest lines I have seen on any blog. Sikeston fans don't get mad this is my opinion just like your's is thta you will beat us with no doubt. Good luck to both teams. Just more to US. Ha ha ha it should be a fun night for the ND Dogs
I don't understand all these claims that Porter is so much better than Willen. I only hear them coming from Sikeston fans, I guess they're a little biased. Mike and Ryan aren't the same players. If you want to compare them as strictly inside players, then I'll take Willen. If you want to compare them as all around guys who can step out and knock down the long shots, I'll take Willen. They were BOTH Conference POY last year (along with Justin Clark). I'd say they're on a pretty similar level.
As for the game...I've said it before (although maybe it was on MoSports) that to say there is a clear-cut favorite is kind of ridiculous. Sikeston should have the advantage on rebounds, but can they contain Notre Dame's 3 point shooters. Notre Dame is by far a better free-throw shooting team, but can they stop all of Sikeston's high-flyers inside? It will be a great game once again, how about an overtime game this time? And "anonymous," if you are a fellow ND fan, or someone pretending to be an ND fan for some other purpose...please shut it. These things can make for great discussion until some anonymous poster gets on here and talks trash about schools, teams, or individual players.
Whoops, I meant I'll take Porter as the "strictly inside player", and Willen as the "all-around" player. I cant wait to get bashed for that mistake :P. Whoops.
Haha, Baseball, i believe ND didnt make it to the championship game, which we dominated in.
Oh and yall could win, but you will never be more athletic then our team....
Porter/Willen is a toss up
Brandon Washing and Cal lane could jump higher and run faster than all ND fooldogs, i mean bulldogs, combined.....Yall dont have amost 3 times the losses for nothing. Its cuz we have had a better year.......
And I'm willign to bet that if we win, we'll never hear from you again on this site.
Yah, Sikesotn has the high flying ability, rebounds, and the ability to go on streaks like no other team in the state. ND has free throw shooting and clutch threes. So we'll see who wins. I can't think of 2 more evenly matched teams in the state.
No disrespect to SCC, as they're one of my favorite teams to watch, but they could run faster and jump higher too....
sikeston 1213, were you directing your comments to me?
Nope, I was directin it to someone that said they beat us in baseabll, and we cant hold a jock strap or soemthing.
I like SCC too, but no one in the area can jump higher than our two boys Cal Lane and Washington
Both over 50 in verticle, yes its hard to beleive, but go to the fieldhous and youll se it on the rercord books....
"ND will win this game. Write it down, Sikeston has no shot at all. ND has faster, quicker, more athletic, and all around better players than Sikeston. We will beat them by at least thirty. Willen will DOMINATE I repeat DOMINATE Porter. He will show him a real D1 talent looks like. The rest of the blue dogs will fall in line and run Sikeston out of the jym. I thinks Frederiktown has a better chance of beating us. As for baseball, we will dominate Sikeston this year just like we have in the years past."
That one, which is a joke i may add, haha
sikeston1213 would better serve Sikeston if he'd keep his mouth shut; and, I don't have a dog in this hunt
Then why are you even on this board?
I'm assuming you're still a student at SHS right? Might have to get a phone number and have you get me a dang ticket lol.
What a bunch of dumbazz comments from SOME of the ND faithful!! If someone wants to put there money where their mouth is on the comments about the score, let me know and you can pay me at the scorers table at the end of the game.
why am I on this board? just to see how ridiculous some of you can be
I don't have an account but I check here alot. I graduated from Sikeston and I think that you all need to let boys be boys and play a sport that each and everyone of them love. I don't care how bad each person from Sikeston treats Nd fans. I don't care how bad each person from ND treats Sikeston Fans. Just let boys be boys and play a game that they love. Most of the guys in this game will never play another game after high school. I am honored to say I saw Tyler H. play in high school and I will be just as honored to say I watched alot of heated battles between Willen and Porter. This is the SEMO version of Magic vs. Bird. Fun to watch even if your team loses.
Todd G.
Boy, David U. really stirred things up, didn't he?
I actually thought that was a very good article. No bias either way for ND or Sikeston. I can't wait until the game on the 22nd. If both teams make it to the game.
Todd G.
Todd, that's probably the best post on here.
Farmboy, Yes I am a student. I dont know if you were asking that sarcastily or what.
And I'm from Sikeston, so why would I root for, or make arguements for ND? As a student, I know the atmosphere, ppl hate ND here, and they prolly feel the same. It should be an awesome game, and I hope btoh teams play their best game of the year, so no one can complain.
RedDogs by 5-10 ;)
I agree Farmboy. Good job Todd! By the way Farmboy, this is Bakerbro1...WHATS UP!
If youd really want a ticket, just give me the email, lol
I think I'll just savor the fact that this will be the last time we see Willen v. Porter on the high school level, let alone probably ever.
Both teams are great teams! Someone fast forward to the 22nd!!
I agree, I also think that this will be the last time in a while that these 2 teams will be as evenly matched. We saw that ND isnt much without willen, and next year we'll have Big Mike, along with many others.
Enjoy it boys and girls, this will be one of those games you'll never forget.....
22nd Baby, better get your tickets from one of the 2 schools unless you plan on camping out.....
Ah, I love these Sikeston/ND blogs. Always guarenteed to go 50 plus on the responses
I believe I said this over at mosports, but I believe we all are putting the "cart before the horse". Remember, Sikeston and ND BOTH still have to make it TO the finals. Which they most likely will, but we should wait till the 22nd JUST to see what happens.
How are we supposed to get the tickets from the schools?
AHH, stop chasing me Baker! lol
No sikeston1213, I wasn't sarcastic, just teasing about needing a ticket. Lots of people hate ND for whatever reason, I couldn't tell you why. I made the choice to transfer to ND after my 9th grade year, so as someone coming is with an unbiased view, I thought ND and the people there were great. The only time ND "hated" Sikeston when I was there was when we were watching our teams play on the field or the court. Otherwise, I don't think people really thought about it. Several kids from ND have friends from Sikeston, and it's probably the same down at Sikeston.
Hell Idk, they just said that 700 were goin out to each school and at most around 250 they will sell at the game. I guess if you drop by one of the schools when they start selling them, you could purchase one.......I shoudl be able to find out when they start tomorrow
Thats what i meant, hating as in the sports part of it. I have a few good friends from ND, as well as other schools as well. LOL i didnt think you were bein sarcastice, jsut makin sure ;)
Like I said, if you cant get a tickt by like the 20th or so, Il be checkkin the sites daily ;)
This is incredible. Do you Sikeston boys not have anything to do tonight? My goodness I dont think I have ever seen some of the most worthless shit written over and over. sikeston1213, I know, we all know, Mike over Ryan, you are getting there early. Go to bed, its past your bedtime. How many posts do you need to say the same damn thing to your anonymous boyfriend on here. Give me a break.
Now thats CLASS! LOL
Jose is checking in. I hope Perryville plays Dexter in the championship so obnoxious ND fans, and cocky Sikeston fans can shut up. Im tired of hearing all this crap. Go Bearcats!!!
Yup, thats what i've said on every posts.......man I wish I were you....Stay off the boards unless you ahve somethin to say about the topic.......
looks like biskit needs to quit eating biscuits. lordy lordy.
Don't know if their 5-15 record will get them their Jose. Maybe you can give them an "injection" to help them out!
Your grammar is bad too.
Hope my juice can make it happen, or I will just need to start my wishful thinking right now.
NICE!! Gone from ND / SIKESTON banter to personal attacks...go to bed young 'un.
This is getting out of hand. I don't want to think about your juice making think happen. Sick
Todd G
Go to the hospital.
suppose to be things happen
I not edyoumakated
Todd G
Todd, that's just nasty! LOL
Sorry thought all the little baby's were asleep.
Ha ha ah
Todd G
Nope not yet Todd.
Not yet, but I think THEY are close!
FarmBoy
Who does ND finish the year off playing this week?
Todd G
I could be wrong, but I strongly believe that Sikeston people are getting on here and acting as if they're from Notre Dame, which is extremely immature. You're not fooling me.
And Sikeston1213, aren't you still in high school? Don't you have school tomorrow morning? Go to bed!
WHY?
It is stupid to do that kind of thing.
Todd G.
I am going to type my name each and everytime so you know it is me.
I might actually get an account someday.
See I just became a big boy.
WOW!! LOL!! I am sure that is exactly what's going on! ITS A CONSPIRACY!!
Sikeston1213, you are making a fool of yourself. And you have been since your first post on this site. You say the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Just copy and paste it. Save yourself some time.
You have absolutely NO ROOM to talk about Notre Dame people after how ridiculous you've made yourself and your school sound on here. I bet if you had to put your name on all the crap you write, you wouldn't have nearly enough to say ... Would you?
And I agree with anonymous. People are definitely acting like they're from different schools on here. It's stupid. I'm sure most of it is from our little buddy Sikeston1213, too. He obviously has nothing better to do with his life than sit in front of his computer for hours on end and back up Sikeston. If you're so confident in your team, then let THEM take care of business.
I am going to start doing that next week. That would be cool. Leave messages as ND fans who are mad. They do that already why should we do that on here. When did we start pointing fingers. Cause my dad could kick your dads butt.
Notre Dame plays Caruthersville and Desoto this week.
LOL thats the only reason i typ emy name in, so you dot think its an "anonymous" sikeston fan
Ha, the sikeston kid only has like 5 posts about the game, the rest are about other tings. Thats to the Sam guy or whatever. And I dont think Sikeston fans are doin that, cuz why would they even waste their time?
Yah, I would type in dumb things then reply to them? Wow, you guys are pretty funny, thats to that Sam guy....
either way, the 22nd, till then, Take it wasy ;)
Sikeston1213, please quit typing. I got on this thing this morning and read all 90 comments. You sound ignorant and arrogant. I graduated from Sikeston, and you are being an embarrassment.
Check out mosports
Michael Porter is only #33 in the state. Willen will probably be in the top 5. Just proof ND will produce better.
Porter is lucky to be that high. The 22nd will just cement the fact that he is better and that ND is by far the better squad.
That's the worst proof I've ever seen. With your logic, Sikeston shouldn't have a problem with ND because they are ranked higher in the state poll.
You can throw any rankings or polls out the window when Sikeston and ND lace em up.
Porter was #29 last year and for some strange reason he dropped. I pulled this straight from MFloyd on mosports as regard to his stats:
"He’s averaging 0.2 points less, rebounds are the same, and every single other statistic is better, including he's knocked down six 3's. His biggest improvement is blocked shots. He's averaging about 4 bpg. He's had several games where he got 7 or 8 blocks. We also have more balance this year with four around double figures whereas last year we only had 3. He's a much more complete player this year and he just keeps getting better. He's so unselfish that he holds his own scoring average down. Doesn't bother him a bit as long as we win. I haven't seen every kid in the state but we're happy with ours. Complete player in addition to a complete kid. I too am surprised that he actually dropped in those rankings. Doesn't matter though. We just want to win."
I think that's a pretty good ranking considering Michael is only a JUNIOR and Willen is a SENIOR. We'll see where he ranks next year, then you have something to compare to.
That make no sense at all. Michael probably doesn't even care what he ranked. Also the guy that did this report doesn't even know enough to get the story straight. He stats in the article that the Michael is performing well for the TIGERS.
Who are the tiger's? Mosports sucks and there is nothing to the story except for a couple of guys getting together and making a list. MFLOYD, BISKIT, BAKE, YAH YAH, and I will get together and put a list together. It will mean nothing to any of you but the world to us. All opinions let boys be boys and play the game. This is stupid!!!!!!!!!!
well said, todd g...well said.
I'm bored.....
...so i figured I'd be the 99th and 100th post on here
WOW 100 post.
On a worthless subject. The kids will decide the game. Not all these worthless messages.
GOODLUCK SIKESTON AND ND may you both make it to the district final.
Now my real feelings
GO SIKESTON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Todd, you're a smart man
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